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things were ok then the shit hit the fan

Kalonapossessorofpeace — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:37:33 GMT

I was not a famous artist except in small circles as the art world is. I know find myself in Stockholm Sweden and the"ART SCENE" is even less than the USA. I am very isolated here...don't know if I am a failure yet as I am not dead (although I feel dead with NO INSPIRATION).
I am from Northern Indiana close to Chicago and wondering if anyone else is from this area of the country???????? if so please send me a message!
here is my shitty website as I am a failure to build a real or nice one yet
www.kalaonasahaniwaya.blogspot.com
some work is student work as I work to seperate the images.
I did not choose to be an artist it chose me..I know to many of you that makes sense. I went to school..got degrees and taught...but never tenured..then looking for any any any job I could find I was told time and time again....your overqualified and I was passed by.
So failure? or work in progress my life has sucked for a few years now even though I am working on my next film (writing it) I am in sweden.
Any advice would be appreciated.

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Art School Killed My Innocence

Tue, 07 Mar 2006 15:51:56 GMT

I used to be so prolific as a child and a teen. It used to be an escape. After art school, the blank canvas became terrifying, because it became a mirror, essentially. I've been alienated ever since.

Glad I found this group.

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newyorkreview.org

mingus006 — Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:16:40 GMT

hey guys, i'm working on a new online magazine (http://newyorkreview.org), please check it out and let me know what you think.

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NEEDED: Used and Unwanted Art Supplies

redrawnarts — Thu, 08 Dec 2005 03:21:32 GMT

Redrawn Arts, a recycled art supply company, is currently seeking used and unwanted art supplies and materials. We'll take anything you have to give:

*Half used tubes of paint
*Incompletel color pencil sets
*Scraps of canvas, linen, silk, etc.
*Crusty brushes
*Eraser nubs
*Paper pads (vellum, bristol, watercolor, newsprint, etc..)
*Old markers
*Skinned over gesso
*Lone stretcher bars
*Dried up clay
*Any other miscellany and etcetera

Clean out your studio, we'll take your odds 'n' ends, and help out struggling LA artists--all at the same time!

Email us at redrawnarts@yahoo.com, and let us know what you can donate!

Thanks
Trisha and Octavio
Founders of Redrawn Arts

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Failure stories?

Shmendrickalidocious — Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:09:45 GMT

How did you get to be an "Artistic Failure"?

My Failure Story/intro:

Went into the artist life kicking and screaming, I didn't want to be an artist, didn't want to be poor. Wanted a nice secure middle class job, my dad was a commission salesman and then latter a commission headhunter which meant that on good years I grew up with constant financial instability from year to year. Good years were mostly used to pay off debts from bad years. I thought an artist's life was even more unstable that a commission salesman's life. I figured if I was ever to have kids, I owed them a life of fear from home foreclosure and months of eating mac and cheese.

I went to college, second rate state institution. Tried for a teaching major but couldn't conform enough to be acceptable as a student teacher, cooperationg teachers seem to be threatened by other teachers with imaginations and will try to root out any like that while they are still student teaching when possible. Had to take a second academic major, picked fine art because it came naturally easy for me to do something spontaineous and get an A. Freed up my time. Teaching major fell through but I don't think any of the other academic majors would have gotten me a job easily either, it's not like you can go as a History major and get a good paying job in a fortune 500 company.

Worked in hospitals, a group home for cerebral palsey, and eventually retail. Was terrible with politics, cheeky and manipulative with authority. I paid the price with manangement accordingly. Did such a number on having no or bad references that only places that didn't bother with background checks would hire me. After all, once you try blackmailing a hospital administrator that is pressuring you to resign so they don't have to contribute to your unemployment, to force them to write a letter of dismissal, and milk the full six months of unemployment. Well, it's kind of hard to get a job after that.

Eventually I concluded, foaming lattes for burgois bastards on cellphones screaming they have to catch trains, that I couldn't make any less than I was doing minimum wage work if I illustrated.

I did. I was illustrating for a few realtors, used a victorian black and white pen and ink style to make portraits for gift giving. It was better money than retail. Customers were more annoying. Eventually used the same style for children's portraits, cars (yes, some rich people want to commission you to do cars) and even two issues of a local paper with Norman Rockewell style Newspaper front pages.

I was getting prestige, known around town, it still wasn't enough income to move out from my parents house. I found the endless photos I needed to reproduce freehand to be a bore, but was so perfectionistic that I obsessed over detail that pleased the clients but wouldn't have been necessary to get my checks or repeat buisiness.

Eventually I decided I wanted to do some really meaninful peices, same medium, New york city street scenes. These were things I liked. I took my meager savings and invested in making offset prints of the scenes I obsessed on for about two months each (Imagine tight crosshatching with the .005 micron pigma pen on picture fields 18"x24"). Made 500 copies of each of my first four (out of six). Signed and numbered all, plaquemounted a mix of 100 prints, packaged, shrink wrapped, durable styrofoam corners for shipping.

I presented it as a product for corperate gift giving. About $80 each for about (with mounting and shipping) about a $25 per unit production cost.

I met with three investment banks that year, from 2000-2001. All of these places I spoke to people my father placed into high positions as a headhunter, or found really good candidates for. One investment bank was ready to commission me to do original work for a new trading floor for mortgage backed securities, and then buy the mounted prints of those originals, about 2500 of them.

The meetings continued, friendly correspondence, but they were stalling. The economy was starting slow alot. Rumors abounded of a recession. Great pressure was put on all banks to reduce all unnecessary expendatures to make their books look better.

They told me to just hang in there. I did. I noticed the Bond Market was doing well, my best friends cousin was going to get me in Cantor Fitzgerald to show my work. We played phone tag, then on 9-11 the Towers went down with most of Cantor Fitzgerald. Luckily the cousin who was an unusally paranoid type (went through the first bombing) left his building after the first building was hit, even though everyone was telling him he was being silly. Good for him, back to the story...

I was flabbergasted and flustered. Was just turning 30, humiliated I was still living with parents. Just wanted to get any job to move out and look more responsible, was tired of explaining to peers with money and places of their own why I had none. I went out to get a construction job, I now operate an industrial Robot that precision cuts composite materials used to make custom panels used in siding for office buildings. A material called Alucobond.

I made a living wage, non-union, but never had a loss of work yet. Bought a fixer upper, moved to a town where everyone seems like they should be on springer as guests, but mostly harmless and amusing. Friends in low places, gotta love it.

Now, after about three years, I have permission to use leftover composite materials, and the Robot I cut with, and the autocad, to create sculptures. My boss has been kind enough to say that for my being a good employee, and cheap, he won't charge commission to have such large fabrications sold out to developers who we make office parks for in Jersey City. People like Mack-Cali.

There is always hope... I certainly do not want to spend the rest of my life crosshatching anymore, I am still good at it, but never... never again do I want to spend the end of every day with ice bags on my eyes for so intensely obsessing on detail. I need something large and abstract. At least I understand the medium, I work with it and the tools to cut it all day long.

Well, that's my artistic failure story.

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artist housing

abjectphoto — Sat, 20 Aug 2005 03:28:19 GMT

this is interesting does anyone know about this?

http://www.artspaceusa.org/neighborhood/

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It's not working...

Calvin — Thu, 13 May 2004 19:39:50 GMT

I gathered over 100 fur coats from Goodwill recently and began doing a 32 foot motor home in mink, rabbit, fox, etc., wall to wall, ceiling, crapper, everything. I think the artistic image I was seeking turned into a musty mausoleum of animal death with an icky pimp atmosphere which would kill anyone with allergies should they enter. Maybe I'll hold off on the zebra stripe paint job.

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mail art

jasmine — Tue, 13 Jan 2004 05:45:18 GMT

i am in the process of sending out 250 postcards, with the hopes of return... altered in any artistic manor or creative whim. i have a little gallery interested in showing the results. Hopefully ill post a gallery on the web, too.
If anyone would like to be included in this...email me an address and you'll receive a postcard and directions via the US mail shortly...
the name of this thing is "all on the outside" and the postcard has a small gray square on it.... that is all.
-jaz
allontheoutside@hotmail.com

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ohno

mariiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii — Fri, 05 Mar 2004 23:17:35 GMT

i make tvs. only tvs.

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Art abd design sought for good cause

Kalonapossessorofpeace — Mon, 08 Mar 2004 23:47:56 GMT

LPDC is looking for New Designs

The Leonard Peltier Defense Committee is calling upon all of Leonard's
supporters around the world and inviting them to submit designs for
Leonard's new bumper stickers and pins.

We will be holding a contest from March 15th to May 15th and will unveil
the winner in our June newsletter (so if you have not subscribed, please
do so today).

Please submit your ideas with a $10 submission fee (Prisoner's fee is
waived) to LPDC, Designs, PO Box 583, Lawrence, KS 66044. The winner
will receive $10 in merchandise with their design on it and half of the
submission monies. The rest of the proceeds will go towards the
production of our new merchandise.

We are inviting everyone to participate in this contest, as we always
welcome your ideas and input.

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March 08, 2004 - 03:29 PM new
Re: ART CONTEST!

Calling all Artists!!!!

The Leonard Peltier Defense Committee announces a new "Free Peltier" art
contest. We are working to keep Leonard's name in the public eye, to
increase interest and awareness, and are seeking new designs for each of
three categories - bumper stickers, t-shirts, and patches. Anyone can
enter the competition. There will be a cash prize for the winning entry
in each category plus publicity here on Leonard's website. Don't miss
this opportunity to show everyone how you feel about Leonard Peltier.
Your design could be synonymous with Leonard Peltier and his cause
throughout the world. The application form and rules are available on
the web site.

Lawrence Sampson
Board Member, Support Group Coodinator-
Leonard Peltier Defense Committee
WWW.LEONARDPELTIER.ORG <www.leonardpeltier.org/>
FREE LEONARD PELTIER!!!!

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free "art" materials

io — Sat, 13 Sep 2003 02:22:10 GMT

this thread is for posts detailing new treasure troves of junk that could be used for art, or art supplies, etc. please leave as much info as possible... the point of the thread is to share access.

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i,..

io — Sun, 07 Sep 2003 03:17:51 GMT

i tried to invite a bunch of fakesters. ..
i know, there is the yahoo group....
something went wrong. . .
fuk hotel dialup.. ...
invite your most failed friends, please...

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Artistic Failures's topics - tribe.net

things were ok then the shit hit the fan

Art School Killed My Innocence

newyorkreview.org

NEEDED: Used and Unwanted Art Supplies

Failure stories?

artist housing

It's not working...

mail art

ohno

Art abd design sought for good cause

free "art" materials

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